Tactic Benchmark League

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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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I've got some tactics to be tested.

Two of them are 4222, one with DMCs and one with CMs. The other is a 442, the instructions were provided by a forum user 'Alan Shearer'. All three are NWB.

https://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/8XX ... P%2Buy6xZl
https://www.sendspace.com/file/epz3ye
https://www.sendspace.com/file/6g5wbn
https://www.sendspace.com/file/c4owlw
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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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We have no collected and tested 2046 tactics. Sky18akavenator commited to the repository and been great help thank you!

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21 tactics won 100 seasons all WW. bsup68 managed to win 89 seasons and 2nd for rest 11 season with his bsup68 CML Narrow v.23 tactic.
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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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Not too bad for a NWW tactic ;)
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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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Spectral,

I know this is a big ask 1948 (well, 1491) tactics in but would you be willing to add a new column that states whether the tactic utilizes overlapping players via WW/NWW manipulation? I know they make some of the best tactics but I find them finicky and ponder if they cross my personal line.

For the record, if our roles were reversed I would not be keen to undertake this so I'm realistic about your response.
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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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Hi Russta,

Not sure if I understand your question because xls file had a column stating if it is or not a NWW/WW tct.
You need to check the cmtactics.xls file.
Did I answer your question? If not please explain better.

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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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Hi Spectral!
Can you please test my tct?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1faOK48 ... drive_link

I followed Samsami post about wibwob for dummies and I got a 2143 formation. After I used Tapani method to build a top tactic (post from Xeno reposting the one that Tapani did in old forum) and I improved the tct.
Soon I understood the duplicates advantage and my tct become a 2123 overview tct.
I was still not happy with it and I wanted to learn more so I followed Scemoka advices and tactic continued to improve. I used Tapani method again. Did a lot of benchmarks. Eventually the 2 side strikers become AMs and I got a 21221 overview tct.
So, I want to say thanks to all of them because I learned a lot with each one of them. Also to Spectral because if it was not this post TBL I would never had learn to bm, Xeno because he helped me with some aspects of BM and to TF for his help and contribute.
Instructions are not the "normal ones". I realize that I get better bm result if my AMs man mark the GK. Cannot explain... Tried with Striker marking the GK but not that so good.
Tried to man marking GK with AMs in anothers tct, like kvlz, but it doesn't works. For some reason it seems to work good in mine...

My main purpose was/is only to learn more. These 2 years since I re-discovered the game have been very fun! Thank you all.
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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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bsup68 wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:07 pm Not too bad for a NWW tactic ;)
V23 is different than the original version?
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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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The shape/formation is the same as bsup68 CML Narrow, but the Personal Instructions is different.
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bsup68 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:33 pm The shape/formation is the same as bsup68 CML Narrow, but the Personal Instructions is different.
is there a link please?
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It can be found in Spectrals tactic database(link in post 1)

but screenshot and link can be found here too: viewtopic.php?p=79361#p79361
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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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UserName987 wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:53 am
Spectral wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:33 pm Hi manuchao, thank you! :)

One of them in tactic test line so it will be done in next update.
562 scemoka 2-6-2 MM
898 scemoka 262 MMJ

To be honest i didn't care if tactics was dublicate or not in the WBB/NWW are, if the name is different i just test them to see the results.
I just checked them from TacticEditors, actually they are so identical tactics or even dublicate if i didn't miss something.
Wish we could have something else to see any difference, but these are telling a lot as well!

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I list them different ways, and i also play on tactics if a tactic gets decent Average points i try to make it a NWW tactic as well or change the look as i think looks nicer :x

All of these statics says different things so ie i would go 90+ for Most 1st places and 64 or 65+ for Average points probably.
Also after that i would compare other important ones ie which one scored more surely for attacking lover.
Meaning only 3 tactics managed 100+ goals for one season in 24 games more than 4 goals! 2-6-2 MM twice ;)
Hello. Thank you for your efforts. I need the "Tactic Editor Gold" program. Can you share the program or a link where we can download it? I will be grateful to you for this. Thank you.

Hello, Think i am being blind, but I cannot find this editor anywhere. If someone has a direct download link I would be very grateful! I have had it in the past, but that laptop is long gone.

Thanks!
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I have found it!

https://bitbucket.org/nakre/cm0102-tact ... ditors.zip

TEd is the file name for anyone like me wh is looking for an exact file name relating to 'Tactic Editor Gold'
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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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Added 2067 tactic screenshots to the repository.

Also now all tactics shared on the forums as of today has been benchmarked.

d_champman_v2 by Sky18akavenator won 100 seasons as well sits at top 2nd tactic with 71,47 avg points.

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What does the position mean on the Excel>?
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Mick wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:08 am What does the position mean on the Excel>?
Spectral can confirm you but I am pretty sure that its the order by which tct were tested. For ex. 1st was the one firstly tested and 2 thousand and something was the last one to be tested.
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Sky18akavenator wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:27 pm
Mick wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:08 am What does the position mean on the Excel>?
Spectral can confirm you but I am pretty sure that its the order by which tct were tested. For ex. 1st was the one firstly tested and 2 thousand and something was the last one to be tested.
Was wondering why tactic in position 1 got my sacked after 2 games!!
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Fodster wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:28 pm
Sky18akavenator wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:27 pm
Mick wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:08 am What does the position mean on the Excel>?
Spectral can confirm you but I am pretty sure that its the order by which tct were tested. For ex. 1st was the one firstly tested and 2 thousand and something was the last one to be tested.
Was wondering why tactic in position 1 got my sacked after 2 games!!
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I always order it by avg points. there are several tct with 100 league champion, so, in my opinion, the best ones on the group of the 100 wins should be the ones that get more avg points.
but you can also order it by goals per match or less conceeded, wins, etc, as you may want a tct that scores more, conceed less or has more wins, respectevly.
nevertheless, some mates say that even that some tct have more wins/avg points, by the fact of some players are "on the top of each other"/in overview you can see only 7,8 or 9 players, instead of the regular 10 (+GK), that the tct doesnt works very well in full mode. Don't know if that is a fact, never tried it in a saved game.
but you can filter in many ways to get a tct that fits you.
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bsup68 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:26 pm It can be found in Spectrals tactic database(link in post 1)

but screenshot and link can be found here too: viewtopic.php?p=79361#p79361
what is this font called its so beautiful
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First time posting tactics, if these could be tested please.

First one is a 4123 with wide forwards, an AMC in MC with forward arrow and a more box to box MC alongside them. Tactic built around overloading ball areas.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/hx28s8

Second one is a 31231 again with wide AMLR/FLR, middle DC pushing to DMC and DMC pushing to MC (based this off 2-1-3-1-3 High Pressing tactic with tweaks).

https://www.sendspace.com/file/tl09xg

I use 4123 when playing tough teams i.e. Man City, Real Madrid, Inter etc as it seems to limit their shots on goal and i use 31231 against all other teams.

Thanks!
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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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semih99999 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:57 pm
bsup68 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:26 pm It can be found in Spectrals tactic database(link in post 1)

but screenshot and link can be found here too: viewtopic.php?p=79361#p79361
what is this font called its so beautiful
Comic Sans MS, if I remember correct :)
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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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Hi,

Can I have my tactics tested, please? :D

Non-wibwob'd:

TCB: https://www.sendspace.com/file/yyler5

Xmas Tree NWW: https://www.sendspace.com/file/dmp3lg

^3-5-2 NWW v2^: https://www.sendspace.com/file/fhif3m


Wibwob'd:

Allybol 4-1-3-2: https://www.sendspace.com/file/doh3m9

Teste v3.2.1: https://www.sendspace.com/file/jhl9om

(EDIT: Updated from v3.2 to v3.2.1)

Thank you!
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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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Hi all, hope you're well. I've been trying to download a few tactics on the forum, but when I click on their link and download the file I get the following message:

"Windows cannot open the folder.

The compressed (zipped) folder [destination path on my local laptop which is 'C:\Users\name\downloads\filename.zip] is invalid'".

Anyone know what's happening, and if there's a way I can resolve the issue? At this point, I can download the file, but cannot open it. Therefore, I can't copy the file and paste into the Tactics folder.

I'm running Windows 11, if that helps.

Cheers!
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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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Hey GC

There is a bit about the subject here: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=4955

Short version; A website problem about a year ago wiped a lot of, if not all the files there was/is downloadable - you may have found a file there still needs to be reuploaded to work - but more about that in the thread I linked.
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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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Aluninho wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:33 pm Hi,

Can I have my tactics tested, please? :D

Non-wibwob'd:

TCB: https://www.sendspace.com/file/yyler5

Xmas Tree NWW: https://www.sendspace.com/file/dmp3lg

^3-5-2 NWW v2^: https://www.sendspace.com/file/fhif3m


Wibwob'd:

Allybol 4-1-3-2: https://www.sendspace.com/file/doh3m9

Teste v3.2.1: https://www.sendspace.com/file/jhl9om

(EDIT: Updated from v3.2 to v3.2.1)

Thank you!
Hi Aluninho
Can i ask you what is the difference between Testev3.2 and Taste3.2.1 ?
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Re: Tactic Benchmark League

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I think it was just the instructions.
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