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@spectral. You did a lot off work allready. Thxs again
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Post by manuchao »

hey Spectral, first of all i want to say that you've done some excellent job here, we thank you, you legend!

second, i think this has been asked before but i never saw the answer
Is 2-6-2 MM the same with 2-6-2 MMJ?

and third, which in your opinion is the best way to sort the better tactics? Average points? Total points? Most wins? Most 1st places?

thanks again for your work
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Hi manuchao, thank you! :)

One of them in tactic test line so it will be done in next update.
562 scemoka 2-6-2 MM
898 scemoka 262 MMJ

To be honest i didn't care if tactics was dublicate or not in the WBB/NWW are, if the name is different i just test them to see the results.
I just checked them from TacticEditors, actually they are so identical tactics or even dublicate if i didn't miss something.
Wish we could have something else to see any difference, but these are telling a lot as well!

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I list them different ways, and i also play on tactics if a tactic gets decent Average points i try to make it a NWW tactic as well or change the look as i think looks nicer :x

All of these statics says different things so ie i would go 90+ for Most 1st places and 64 or 65+ for Average points probably.
Also after that i would compare other important ones ie which one scored more surely for attacking lover.
Meaning only 3 tactics managed 100+ goals for one season in 24 games more than 4 goals! 2-6-2 MM twice ;)
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Lets update to 1000 tactics!
Only 30 tactics left from the ones uploaded to forums. Bad news for myself there is 299 i had in my HDD that shared in past.
This has been a huge challenge to be honest so tired to see another tactic sometimes :roll:
I also created few tactics from these tested one that i liked the way they look or changed them totally to a different look.
Some of them failed some got better results maybe can share these later if i can finish these damn 299 :x ( :idea: maybe just get rid of them :idea: )

Lets see whats happened since 800th tactic.

We now have 10 tactics managed winning all seasons and 11 that missed this record by only 1 season.

Congrats to scemoka now sitting at top of the list with his 262 MMJ with 69.48 Avg Points.
Best for Goal difference stat as well with 5707 and most scorer tactic by 8350.
It also had 2nd place for 4 seasons out of 100.

Also scemoka's +M nwb is best in NWW tactics by 56.29 Avg Point.

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Post by bsup68 »

1000 tactics, that's a lot :shock: lets see how creative people gets in CML, maybe you'll end up with more to test :lol:
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Can believe that my A6 is top 8. Average point is higher than Looper352. In real play (no holiday), my Looper352 is better than A6 :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Adding your name to it's creator :P
Few has commented that some other tactic isn't good in real play as the results in the holiday mode.
Maybe some experts can explain few details or what we can do about this case.
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Lets add another 100 tactics now we have total 1100 tactics.
Some of them not posted on forums yet so no url on excel you can locate them in the repo by name.
I plan to post them as a pack maybe instead of one by one.
Lets see what news we got ? 3 new tactics has won 100 season!
Only 1 tactic has 4 defenders from top 30 and just 1 sweeper, rest either 3 or 2 defenders.

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This is simply godlike spectral. Hats off!
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Post by faz44 »

Good stuff and everything but you're using a deliberately chopped down version of the game and that worries me.
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faz44 wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:55 am Good stuff and everything but you're using a deliberately chopped down version of the game and that worries me.
We need more your advices!
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Post by Cam F »

Always been the main thing for me, pointless having tactics that suit the save game test but don't play like that irl.

Also having ran one of the original tactic leagues it eventually does your head in, especially when folk submit 6 versions of the same tactic for you to test, that was the end for me and put me off SO much i haven't made a tactic again in probably 10 years :lol:
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faz44 wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:55 am Good stuff and everything but you're using a deliberately chopped down version of the game and that worries me.
Agree, but it still helps people for creating their own tactic or use a formation that they will enjoy ;)

I did discuss with some patchers for different kind of testing to make more difficult to see result of a tactic with different scenarios, but so far couldn't get the patches i needed.
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Cam F wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:16 am Always been the main thing for me, pointless having tactics that suit the save game test but don't play like that irl.

Also having ran one of the original tactic leagues it eventually does your head in, especially when folk submit 6 versions of the same tactic for you to test, that was the end for me and put me off SO much i haven't made a tactic again in probably 10 years :lol:
Each version can lead different results imo, i maybe tested 10 versions of some tactics but still i rather people creating tactics even if it's not totally their own.
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From the old forum ✌️

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This is fantastic.

Happy 20th birthday, CM!
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Spectral wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:33 pm Hi manuchao, thank you! :)

One of them in tactic test line so it will be done in next update.
562 scemoka 2-6-2 MM
898 scemoka 262 MMJ

To be honest i didn't care if tactics was dublicate or not in the WBB/NWW are, if the name is different i just test them to see the results.
I just checked them from TacticEditors, actually they are so identical tactics or even dublicate if i didn't miss something.
Wish we could have something else to see any difference, but these are telling a lot as well!

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I list them different ways, and i also play on tactics if a tactic gets decent Average points i try to make it a NWW tactic as well or change the look as i think looks nicer :x

All of these statics says different things so ie i would go 90+ for Most 1st places and 64 or 65+ for Average points probably.
Also after that i would compare other important ones ie which one scored more surely for attacking lover.
Meaning only 3 tactics managed 100+ goals for one season in 24 games more than 4 goals! 2-6-2 MM twice ;)
Spectral can you share these tactic editors?
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Added to repo mate, check out tactics editors.zip
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Spectral wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:58 pm Added to repo mate, check out tactics editors.zip
Sorry mate where is "repo"? 😂
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Check out the first post...
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HaroldFinch wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:41 am Check out the first post...
Cant find it :(
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Laudrup wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:28 pm
HaroldFinch wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:41 am Check out the first post...
Cant find it :(
Can't find what? the first post or the link to the "repo" which is short for repository?
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Laudrup wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:28 pm
HaroldFinch wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:41 am Check out the first post...
Cant find it :(
https://bitbucket.org/nakre/cm0102-tact ... ditors.zip
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Spectral wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:20 pm
Laudrup wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:28 pm
HaroldFinch wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:41 am Check out the first post...
Cant find it :(
https://bitbucket.org/nakre/cm0102-tact ... ditors.zip
Thanks mate 🙏
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Post by Rudi Assauer »

Great work. Everybody here on the forums who put in such efforts should get the praise they deserve!

Spectral, great job :!:

I try to post some of my WW and NWW tactics this weekend for you to test and add.
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