Season 1984/85 - Retro Update Team

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Soviet_Top_League

Trying to sneak this in as in office

Armenia (part of USSR)
Azerbaijan(part of USSR)
FYROM (part of Yugoslavia)
Georgia(part of USSR)
Moldova (part of USSR)
Slovakia (part of Czechoslovakia)
Slovenia (part of Yugoslavia)
Belarus (part of USSR)
Bosnia (part of Yugoslavia)
Czechoslovakia
Estonia (part of USSR)
Latvia (part of USSR)
Lithuania (part of USSR)

there are more though.
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sorted, thanks chaps. Any clubs in these nations will have 1 for reputation which should keep them well out of the way.
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Re: Season 1984/85 - Retro Update Team

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SteveHarle wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:22 am
Leoninho wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:53 pm
Ok - I've found the needed full info on players in danish 1st, 2nd and 3rd division. And I'm ready to plot into the sheet.
Further to this...

We have the following player counts in Denmark outside of the top flight which I sent you:

Division 2 (48)
Division 3 (25)
Division 4 (17)
Lower (2)

All attached and I've put on separate tabs so you don't duplicate any if you are creating new players outside of the top tier.

Note: I've not reviewed any of these yet
Thanks for this. I'll jump into it as soon as the time is there.

I've just finished going through 1st division. And i've added approx. 47 new players and made a lot of DOB changes and positioning changes. If you need further help, please let me know. Can give my 50 cents on CA and PA. Also got managers, referees and history to add.

I cant figure out how to attach the file. Any help appreciated :-)
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Leoninho wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:44 pm Thanks for this. I'll jump into it as soon as the time is there.

I've just finished going through 1st division. And i've added approx. 47 new players and made a lot of DOB changes and positioning changes. If you need further help, please let me know. Can give my 50 cents on CA and PA. Also got managers, referees and history to add.

I cant figure out how to attach the file. Any help appreciated :-)
Amazing work! thank you!

Use this site: https://www.sendspace.com/

drag and drop, then it will give a URL to download it past that in the chat here and I can nab it.

CA/PA by all means please give suggestions :-)
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SteveHarle wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:00 pm
Leoninho wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:44 pm Thanks for this. I'll jump into it as soon as the time is there.

I've just finished going through 1st division. And i've added approx. 47 new players and made a lot of DOB changes and positioning changes. If you need further help, please let me know. Can give my 50 cents on CA and PA. Also got managers, referees and history to add.

I cant figure out how to attach the file. Any help appreciated :-)
Amazing work! thank you!

Use this site: https://www.sendspace.com/

drag and drop, then it will give a URL to download it past that in the chat here and I can nab it.

CA/PA by all means please give suggestions :-)
Thanks - hope this works.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/xkvpmi
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Leoninho wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:44 pm Thanks - hope this works.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/xkvpmi
Just had a quick look... keep this stuff coming and we'll get it in!

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Serie B players are done and Top 3 tiers of Spain i've looked at club reps will try and get the DB tomorrow to put it all in.

Battery running out on laptop and i'm not getting up of my fat ass...

Will aim to get Denmark stuff in this week too, seriously good work on that Leoninho, nice one!
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Quite funny doing La Liga, there was a players strike during the season so every team played one game with youth team players, obviously the only appearance they made for the senior side that season :D
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AMC wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:00 pm Quite funny doing La Liga, there was a players strike during the season so every team played one game with youth team players, obviously the only appearance they made for the senior side that season :D
Absolute touch for us though as it makes it easier to bulk teams out :lol:
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SteveHarle wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:37 pm
Leoninho wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:44 pm Thanks - hope this works.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/xkvpmi
Just had a quick look... keep this stuff coming and we'll get it in!

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I'm gonna upload one file with all the leagues later, as there may be some corrections as I get through all the teams.
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I have the DB, previous checks are all good.

Next checks:

- Angelo Orlando plays for Varese
- Roberto Bordin 2nd Nationality is Libya
- Giuseppe Volpecina CA 125 PA 145 CR 100
- Andrea Pazzagli CA 125 PA 150 CR 100

International Managers checked and all good.

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Taking it again for a longer stint...

Next checks:

- Padova have 23 players (2x duplicates removed)
- Atlético Madrid club reputation is 18
- Valencia club reputation is 15
- Arosa club reputation and training is 5, they also have professional status

International managers sampled and all good.

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This is mega exciting!

I was saying to Steve I won’t be about much next few weeks as go on holiday on Saturday but hope to do a few bits and bobs tomorrow, Thursday and Friday before I jet off on holibags.

Keep up the good work all.

This DB is absolutely EPIC!!!

Just in case i forget, can next person make John Robertson of Derby equally two footed, crossing 20, dribbling 20, vision very high and penalty master. Very good at long shots also, scored a long ranger in European Cup Final.

46 penalties in his career, scored 45!

Brian Clough, Robertson's manager at Nottingham Forest, was quoted as saying "John Robertson was a very unattractive young man. If one day, I felt a bit off colour, I would sit next to him. I was bloody Errol Flynn in comparison. But give him a ball and a yard of grass, and he was an artist, the Picasso of our game."

In his autobiography Clough noted that "Rarely could there have been a more unlikely looking professional athlete... [He was a] scruffy, unfit, uninterested waste of time...but something told me he was worth persevering with." but that "[He] became one of the finest deliverers of a football I have ever seen – in Britain or anywhere else in the world – as fine as the Brazilians or the supremely gifted Italians."

Robertson's captain at Forest, John McGovern, later said that "John Robertson was like Ryan Giggs but with two good feet, not one. He had more ability than Ryan Giggs, his ratio of creating goals was better and overall he was the superior footballer".

Forest coach Jimmy Gordon rated Robertson as a better player than Tom Finney and Stanley Matthews, saying that he "had something extra on top".
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V367B- https://www.sendspace.com/file/zy0tsy

Added around 20 Chilean players and made a few other minor tweaks.
Checks:
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- Bearzot, Bingham, Mike England are in the right place
- Concepcion have 16 players
- Carlos Eduardo Duran is player/manager of Victoria (CHI)
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I'm going to take the DB again today (will have it back around 5pm UK time)

If anyone wants it, shout.

Next checks:

- Per Nielsen DOB is 09.07.1956
- Karsten Jeppesen DOB is 25.05.1960
- Thomas Nybro DOB is 24.04.1959
- Jørgen Hinge DOB is 29.01.1959

International managers checked and all good.

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Funny stuff going on at Santander in the 84/85 season, they've a 23 year old Irish striker by the name of Alan Campbell who is pivotal to the side scoring 12 goals in 38 games, while they also have a 39 year old English centre back by the same name who didn't play a single minute :lol:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/racing- ... ta=%261984
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AMC wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:47 pm Funny stuff going on at Santander in the 84/85 season, they've a 23 year old Irish striker by the name of Alan Campbell who is pivotal to the side scoring 12 goals in 38 games, while they also have a 39 year old English centre back by the same name who didn't play a single minute :lol:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/racing- ... ta=%261984
Yeah I think that is a mistake on the transfermarkt website and they've duplicated the striker... this is him, right? no mention of Santander and I'm not sure how a 39 year old who hasn't set the world alight playing in Northern Ireland gets a La Liga contract :lol:

https://nifootball.blogspot.com/2009/11 ... pbell.html

He should be a non-player, manager of Distillery
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Didn't even realise it was a Northern Ireland flag and not an England flag!

Even that's weird, Distillery 1983-85, but Ballymena United 1984-85 as well :D Must have some split personality :lol:
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AMC wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:47 pm Funny stuff going on at Santander in the 84/85 season, they've a 23 year old Irish striker by the name of Alan Campbell who is pivotal to the side scoring 12 goals in 38 games, while they also have a 39 year old English centre back by the same name who didn't play a single minute :lol:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/racing- ... ta=%261984
https://www.national-football-teams.com ... pbell.html

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Checks:
- 575 configs
- Bearzot, Bingham, Mike England are in the right place
- John McGovern player manager at Bolton
- John O'Hare to retire immediately
- Tony Woodcock now a FLC and left footed, both tranfermarket and national football teams have him as playing those positions enough to merit 15 amc and left side.

Can next person make Steve Archibald hate Keith Burtenshaw, they fell out season 83/84 at Spurs after manager accused him of faking injury and Archibald didn’t speak to him rest of season then left for Barca. Archibald inherited Maradona’s number 10 jersey at Barca.

AMC - Miguel Ángel Sainz moved to Cacereño

Deleted dupe Agapito Moncaleán at Zaragoza
Deleted dupe Juan Antonio Montes at Valladolid
Deleted dupe Pitarch (Short name) at Valencia
Pedro Rodríguez Sevilla made Spanish
Gabriel Moya changed db to 20/3/66 and moved to Alcalá (H)

Having problems with La Liga loans
These should be but aren't showing up when loading a game
Jesús Choya Sevilla loan at Figueres
Alberto Vallina Sevilla loan at Cartagena
Manuel Gálvez Valencia on loan at Lorca
Ito & Francis Real Madrid on loan at Valladolid

That's me done for a few weeks as head off on holiday on Saturday so will be busy until then getting ready.

Completed La Liga histories, sucks the life out of me doing player histories but always worth it but I always need a rest after doing them.

Davdav, my 0102 got corrupted, nothing was working this morning so fresh install and all seems fine now with exes.

I look forward to seeing what you guys achieve in my absence.
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Someone has changed Zico to 1 for penalties :lol:

"Zico had missed only two penalties in his career, and was considered the master of the dreaded spot."
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Cam F wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:36 am Someone has changed Zico to 1 for penalties :lol:

"Zico had missed only two penalties in his career, and was considered the master of the dreaded spot."
That was quite possibly me to make him perform better - noticed a few players with high goalkeeping attributes too which will penalise them so made a few tweaks as I spotted them.

Worth noting Pens doesn’t make them better at pens it just sets what order they take them in so really you only want 1/2 players per team with 20 for pens.

If he was their penalty taker that’s my bad just wanted to make him a baller… he is very good anyway though so it’ll be no dramas if he had 20 for pens and yeah he prob should have it sorry about that! 👍
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Enjoy ya holiday Cam, richly deserved.
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V368C- https://www.sendspace.com/file/7vlqst
Found 55 players with no position (all positions=1) and given them a position. Also made Steve Archibald hate Keith Burkinshaw with a passion ;)

Checks:
- 575 configs
- Bearzot, Bingham, Mike England are in the right place
- John McGovern player manager at Bolton
- John O'Hare to retire immediately
- Tony Woodcock now a FLC and left footed, both tranfermarket and national football teams have him as playing those positions enough to merit 15 amc and left side.
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I have the DB.

Denmark top division is now done, thank you for all the information Leoninho!

Next checks:

- AGF have 31 players
- Hvidovre have 27 players
- Køge have 25 players
- Zico has 20 for penalties :)

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Cam F wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:36 am Someone has changed Zico to 1 for penalties :lol:

"Zico had missed only two penalties in his career, and was considered the master of the dreaded spot."
One of then against France in Wc '86 that knocked Brazil out, so nice job Steve!

That being said, I'm probably the only one that thinks like this in Update Team but I do believe penaltis make the player score more. If you take CR7 or Messi in recent updates, they do have trouble scoring comparing with other players that have high penaltis numbers. And they have other attributes that in theory would make they better, like pressure, finishing, important matches...
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