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@Derm: Hmmm, not come across that crash regarding Yugoslavia - but a good call! I should add that to my patcher if you select to change the year. The change is at:

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005F9DAB  |.  8B15 1CF59C00             MOV EDX,DWORD PTR DS:[9CF51C]
Will update that like Tapani does in the future.
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Post by Dermotron »

That's due to them being active again :D

When they are inactive the game will crash eventually. Starting from 2001/02 it used happen most often at 2012 when the hosts draw made for 2016 if I do remember correctly. I think he just added a different nation in there in the eligible nations called.
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thank you very much
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Post by periko512 »

Thank you so much Update Team!!
Just copied the Database and run Nick´s patcher!
Let´s make Real Betis great again!
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Post by twistedblitzle »

Charles De Ketelaere has the wrong positions in this update. He is a DL,DML in the update but in fact he should be AM,F(RLC).
Just thought I would mention it.
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I am checking stadiums against the pics.cfg - notice you have for some reason changed the name of Middlesbrough's stadium. And mis-spelled Middlesbrough.
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Post by arsenalwaz »

anyone find any hidden gems for lower league saves?
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Post by Redknapp69 »

arsenalwaz wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:42 pm anyone find any hidden gems for lower league saves?

Check/ask here - https://www.champman0102.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=1388
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Thx
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Hi guys

I appreciate you have had the (R) or Under 23 system in place for quite a few updates that I haven't used but my first experience of it, is that it throws up a lot of anomalies with regards the AI players released when the preset (R) transfers happen. Billy Gilmour got freed in my game to make room for some gimpy Chelsea U 23s, and Bayern have just released this guy on a free in order to welcome their latest batch of Bayern (R) incomers.

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I had both of these guys on my shortlist, Gilmour had an in game value of £5.5m and the Bayern guy >£4m. Whilst it is lovely to have the chance to sign them for free it just doesn't feel real - I appreciate in the original, Serie A teams would release pretty decent players sometimes if they had hit their 50 complement, but at least they were doing that in order to bring in new players that the AI wanted.

I understand there are no easy answers given the squad sizes modern clubs now have and the limitations of the loan system in game. I also get that you can argue that some players don't make it for their academy club and then turn out to be brilliant, but this is the AI releasing players with massive in game values and caps for their country for free. I don't know the hidden stats of the guy above but I remember Gilmour was one of the players I previewed for my intial feedback after download and I remember they were pretty good. So the AI seems to be making bad choices over who to let go.
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Post by Dermotron »

It's interesting those 2 got released as previously it was alphabetical.

We try offset it by staggering the dates transferred: 16, 17 - 2005, 18 - 2004, 19, 20 - 2003, 21+ - 2002. Also, the transfer is set as 01.08.200x to allow for the transfer windows to open plus the season ticket money come in to promote more player movement beforehand (generally the big clubs tend to be involved in selling out rather than purchases in terms of numbers).

Those transferred are now only: -1, -2, PA130+ (and Internationals if there happen to be some that don't fit the previous criteria)

Availing of the "B Teams can have 50 players" patch in future would sort any issues like above in Germany, Spain and Portugal thankfully.
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Post by anderskofod »

First of all, amazing job!
Robert Skov has 20 in set pieces but only 3 in corners and 10 in crossing. I would suggest 15-16 crossing and 15-17 corners.
He can also play left back and wing back but only in the left side.
I would suggest 15 in left back and 17 in wing back.

I have some positional change suggestions for F.C Copenhagen:

Pep Biel needs to have 20 in AMC, 18 MC, 16 AMR, 15 MR, 14 ML and 20 in free rolle and 15 in ST.

Mohammed Daramy needs to have 18 in ST and 20 in AML and 20 in AMR. 15 in ML and 15 in MR.

Nicolaj Thomsen must have 18 in AML and 20 in AMC, 20 in ML and 18 in MC.

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Post by Max Force »

Denzel Dumfries is the undisputed leader of PSV, so his Influence should be the highest. At this moment, Pablo Rosario's Influence is set on 20. That should be lower. Maybe they can swap.

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Dermotron wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:32 pm Anyone planning on playing with Athletic Bilbao or Barakaldo? It would be good to get some feedback on the change to the players with Basque nationality. It should allow a career game with either club that's not next to impossible 15 years in
I sold Inaki Williams (€75m, couldn't say no) with the intention of buying him back a few years later, but I can't! He's 1st Spanish and 2nd Ghanaian - I understand why, but with him already capped by Spain irl (therefore will never do anything for Ghana) would it make more sense to have Basque as his 2nd nationality for the purposes of the game?

Edit: maybe Iker Muniain should be AMRLC? I have him on FIFA Ultimate Team and he's LW :D but transfermarkt backs up the RLC claim.
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Indeed, he should have Basque 2nd Nat
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Dermotron wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:56 pm Indeed, he should have Basque 2nd Nat
Dunno if you wanna do the same for his brother Nico? Different situation as he’s not played for Spain.
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riise wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:00 pm Edit: maybe Iker Muniain should be AMRLC? I have him on FIFA Ultimate Team and he's LW :D but transfermarkt backs up the RLC claim.
He has played on the right maybe 10% of the games in his career. Until this season he has played from mainly the left, and is currently a more central. ~8-12 right side would be sufficient.
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Alan wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:55 pm
riise wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:00 pm Edit: maybe Iker Muniain should be AMRLC? I have him on FIFA Ultimate Team and he's LW :D but transfermarkt backs up the RLC claim.
He has played on the right maybe 10% of the games in his career. Until this season he has played from mainly the left, and is currently a more central. ~8-12 right side would be sufficient.
I should’ve mentioned that he’s currently AMRC, so I guess we agree.
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riise wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:06 pm
Alan wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:55 pm
riise wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:00 pm Edit: maybe Iker Muniain should be AMRLC? I have him on FIFA Ultimate Team and he's LW :D but transfermarkt backs up the RLC claim.
He has played on the right maybe 10% of the games in his career. Until this season he has played from mainly the left, and is currently a more central. ~8-12 right side would be sufficient.
I should’ve mentioned that he’s currently AMRC, so I guess we agree.
I think AMRLC is fine. In past 3 seasons his positions for starts are RM19, LM23, CM26 according to https://www.football-lineups.com/footba ... /Analysis/ (of the 2 FW starts one was left and one central which I've added in)
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Redknapp69 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:31 am Swansea don't seem to have a Chairman or any CEO/DOF etc at the club under non playing staff - want me to let you know who should go there?
Are Swansea cash rich after the US takeover?
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Dermotron wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:37 pm
Redknapp69 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:31 am Swansea don't seem to have a Chairman or any CEO/DOF etc at the club under non playing staff - want me to let you know who should go there?
Are Swansea cash rich after the US takeover?
Nope - fecking skint mate

They were something daft like 97% wages to income in PL and have suffered since with big contracts. They have slowly sold off those players (and other young "starlets" for some good cash - Dan James, McBurnie, Rodon etc) to balance the books and they are probably only now in a position where books are relatively balanced.
Andre Ayew still on best part of 80-100k a week but he's pretty much the last one

Scratching around the loan market a lot (Cooper has all those England U17 contacts etc) has done them well

One of the owners (Kaplan I think) has resigned as a director and now some mysterious new investor called Jake Silverstien who may or may not have chucked in some cash for likely shares - all sounds very dodgy

Then they have about 28 random US actors all all with minority stakes such as Landon Donovan and Mindy Kayling. - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... y-14053437

Swans Trust still owns 21% of the club but they were excluded when Huw Jenkins and others excluded them from the sale to the US guys. Swans Trust members (I'm one of them) have voted to take the ex-owners to court - taking an age to get things set up and funding etc

In Short, Swans are relatively skint and owners not chucking in any money (fans detest them and want them out) but at least the books are balanced now and nearly all big earners have gone!
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Post by daveclayt »

Scout Lars Wellm seems to be in the game twice. I have two of him with the same DOB and similar stats.
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Post by Marolla »

Played a save with Palermo (Italy) and two things bothered me a little bit:

1) Lazio is massively overrated. I dont know if it was just this save, I should play more saves with the same database to reach a better conclusion, but in this save they are just unbeatable. I only could win the league by scoring more than 100 points, because Lazio hit the 90-100 range like 10 seasons in a row. Unbeliavable.

2) I dont know if this has more to do with the patch or the database, but my team got rich much faster than I'm used to see in my CM saves.
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Post by a11 »

hi, is saturnpatch v10 coming for the latest patch?
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Post by Mark »

Highly unlikely as Saturn has not been around for months. Just use the Nick+Co patcher.
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