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Alright this isn't something new but done bit different from the previous ones.

https://champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?t=277
https://champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?t=8015
https://champman0102.co.uk/showthread.php?t=10031

I have setup a git public repository at https://bitbucket.org/nakre/cm0102-tactic-benchmark

Tested 1343 tactics that's posted to forums by anyone (few links were dead so couldn't add these as poster isn't able to update) or added to downloads sections.

Will try my best to complete all tactics that posted to download section this year :D as Mark has flooded that section :shock: ;)

The CM Tactics.xlsx shows everything in the repository but for now ill put few images to make some sense.

You can easily filter any tactics by creator, forum post, sweeper ones or just 3 forward ones with the way they are listed.

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Direct url for excel file: https://bitbucket.org/nakre/cm0102-tact ... ctics.xlsx

Abbreviated: https://bitbucket.org/nakre/cm0102-tact ... iated.xlsx
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Great job Spectral :)
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congratulations for the great work, Spectral! :)
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Are you testing these tactics against the default tactics of the ones in the April 2021 data update?
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Hi Russta i already stated in the repo, it's against default tactics after completing all tactics we have on the forums/downloads there may be some kind benchmark against some Hard AI tactics.
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Great work, looking forward to see how well some of the tactics i've used in the past perform against new tactics.
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30 more tactics has been added, results and files are updated.

So far two great ones to mention that are in top10 tactics out of 230;

Steamroller
viewtopic.php?f=81&t=1184
Great and best defensive tactic result for now only 6 goals conceded at one season.

INeedPassing
viewtopic.php?f=81&t=1185
One of the best scoring tactic for now, that's good but it's defensive needs get better.
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Uploaded link for the one I posted in the tactics section, would be nice to see where it turns out.

Stealth: https://easyupload.io/7t02xf

Great job btw.
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Well as i have still loads tactics to test my comments are "for now" :)

1st 94 and 2nd 6 times one of the good tactics.

Sits at 8th actually the best side of this tactic seems it scores really lots as it hits 7548 goals where 2nd tactic has only 7242 totally.

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Added few more tactics;

We have a beast there now called; TESTIRANJE first tactic passing avg 66 points with 67,83.
First tactic for now that won all 26 games twice, most games winner 2162 before it was 3-5-2jsc_sw from scemoka with 2111 won.
Only 141 lost 2nd tactic is IodineCF_(Ray_twist5) with 171 lost. Most scorer one as well 2nd is 3-5-2jsc_sw again.
And also most Goal difference one by 5195 while 2nd agaim 3-5-2jsc_sw with 4939.

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Looking forward to see how one of the old tactics I used alot, performs against those strong tactics :)
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Added 25 more tactics thats now 10 pages of all download/tactic section completed there is 30 to go around 750 more tactics to test :D

Mentionable one ^Jack^'s another tactic called 4321 is won all games one season and got 4th place overall avg points.

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Updated with a new statics TESTIRANJE best at this field too it seems.

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Spectral wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 7:34 pm Hi Russta i already stated in the repo, it's against default tactics after completing all tactics we have on the forums/downloads there may be some kind benchmark against some Hard AI tactics.
Thanks for clarifying, that's what I expected. For what it's worth, I did check your repository before asking that but it was showing me the default "here is how you set up a page" stuff for some reason.

Anyway, I just want to say that your spreadsheet is excellent. I have an odd obsession with playing three center backs and three strikers and I was able to very easily find any that suit that criteria and quickly download them. I hope you keep it up with this, really solid work.
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This is fantastic. Thanks so much
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Post by manuchao »

Good job Spectral

2 questions
1) Is the IodineCF (HP) in the tactics file you posted on your first post? I can't see it
2) I also have made a tweeked version of IodineCF. Where can i post it for testing?
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Hi manuchao,

First post doesn't have all tactics as of latest i have done, it was just to show how the benchmark done.
To see latest just download the CM Tactics excel file, it has tactics forum url also all tactics are in the git repo as well.
You can make your own topic or just post it here mate.
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it's this one

https://www.sendspace.com/file/kyh650

just want to see if it's any good compared to others
Thank you very much mate!
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Added around 30 tactics now there is 300 at total.
Rhombus seems get 19th place with it's good results avg 63,59 points.
Added manuachao's IodineCF Manuchao one as well avg points 60,60.
Also the tactic won league 87 times and 12 as 2nd place only 1 time 4th.
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Damn there were some dublicate issue i had to clean up.. which took around 3 days!
So far i'm done 350 but can't say that any tactic that shocked me ie avg 65 points :) will update files and imgs when it reach to 400.
At the meantime anyone welcome share new tactics for bench, will be next on the line if any posted on the forums.
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If you havn't tried this one yet(did not see it in the file) I would love to see https://www.champman0102.net/viewtopic. ... 1212#p9484 tested as I used quite a bit back when CM 01/02 was new.
Sadly I don't do tactics my self, I've never been good at that.
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I have them all (download/tactics) in the list (not packs, which is probably posted on by one as well) completed till page 26 so there is time to come that one yet, going one by one.
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Yeah it's a huge list to get through :shock:
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Post by Mark »

Out of interest Spectral, when you test these - Do you know or note whether they are NWW or WW tactics? Could be useful to add a tag to the downloads so folks can identify which type of tactic it is.

If we were to identify the tactics this way, I think we can then make it easier to release packs and not mix up WW or NWW tactics together as that's likely what I've done so far.
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Sadly Mark i don't check their WW settings at all, i had the column but removed due not sure how to check them easily :x

If there is a way to detect WW easily i may check out and add a WW/NWW column.
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